ARIS Express to diagram BP's using BPMN ?

BPMN 2 support will be part of ARIS Express as soon as the standard has stabilised a little bit.

Good to hear !

Can we have BPMN 1.1 already now then ? 

Please....

No, we decided to go directly for BPMN 2.

Dear Johan,

I'd like to learn a bit more about your approach to use BPMN. You write that you have standardized the symbol set by using BPMN. Do you focus only on the BPMN symbols or is the complete standard relevant for you? And do you use this notation for high level business process modeling or to describe technical processes for automation processes? Also your reasons for your decision to use the BPMN notation would be very interesting for us.

I'd really appreciate if you could share your thoughts about BPMN usage with us.

Best regards

Uwe

BPMN has become THE standard in ease of use Process Modelling. So from my point of view, it is absolutely necessary to have it in ARIS Express.

Your statement " ... we have it as soon as the standard has stabilised a little bit ..." is quite unsatisfying.

I think, a more precise dating is a must for the community.

 

So please let us know more details about the feature launch plans.

Hi Michael,

BPMN 2 in ARIS Express will be available with one of the next service releases. A more concrete answer cannot be given at the moment, because we are discussion technical issues at the moment coming from different capabilities in ARIS Business Designer compared with ARIS Express (e.g. in ARIS Express there are no occurences/definitions or assignments available to implement certain BPMN 2 features). But I'm convinced that these issues will be solved soon and hopefully (but not 100 % sure) the mentioned service release will be in Q1 next year. 

But one question from my side, are you really convinced that BPMN will be the major standard for EASY process modeling? From my point of view, and I was involved in the work on the new standard, BPMN 2 adressess more the bridge to execution, but the acceptance at business user side is quite small. What are the major points where you estimate that BPMN is stronger than ARIS for business process modeling outside the technical or execution scope?

Regards

Uwe

Hi Michael,

just to inform you: Express 2.0, released today, supports BPMN 2.0 :-)

Bye,

Frank