The way I use user groups, certain groups should not have any filter associated. (E.g. based on skill and trust certain people get method change function privileges. I do this via a group so that it is easy to audit) Anyone being added to such a user group will already be a member of another group(s) and there they may have one or more filters already. When creating such groups I used to untick the default filter and move on, thinking that I was getting what I wanted. This morning I noticed (version 126.96.36.1993937) that the default filter gets added back when you're not looking. There seems to be no way of creating a user group without a filter. Is that true or can anyone tell me how to make sure that no filter gets defaulted into the group?